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#2886 - 07/07/10 10:04 AM
Coated strings shootout
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Coated bass strings are the new hot item, and I'll be reviewing several brands soon. Keep watching the accessories forum and the main reviews page for an update.
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#2907 - 07/07/10 03:22 PM
Re: Coated strings shootout
[Re: Golem]
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Tried the Red DRs so far -- actually like them a good bit. Still waiting for Ernie Ball, Elixir & Rotosound.
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#2931 - 07/07/10 11:24 PM
Re: Coated strings shootout
[Re: Golem]
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They don't SOUND coated then? You know what I mean, right? How they sound bright, but with a good deal less low end? It's weird to explain, but I feel like there's a good bit of oomph missing from coated strings as compared to non-coated. What did you think so far Laklander?
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#2937 - 07/08/10 09:35 AM
Re: Coated strings shootout
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The red DRs don't sound coated at all -- they have a nice zing but not overbearingly so. As for bass, I played 'em in the studio two weeks ago and the engineer took me direct because they were giving me TOO MUCH bass through the old Fender Bassman 10. I didn't get that feeling live, though. Most unexpected thing is that my plucking fingers actually hang up a bit,which they don't on regular rounds or flats. They don't feel at all "greasy," which is how the old Elixirs used to feel. I'm expecting a set of those soon. Their rep told me at NAMM that some players had said they felt too slick, so maybe they changed the coating.
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#2939 - 07/08/10 10:35 AM
Re: Coated strings shootout
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` My DR reds are most likely the old formula. They feel slick, in a "gliding" way, not in a "greazy" way. Combined with the Moses FL neck, output was rather noticeably greater than my other Rays and Sterlings, and so I lowered the PU all the way. The tone of a fully lowered PU is very smooth [a general rule, not just this bass], so the strings are not the only variable at work here ... yet I would expect that these strings, on any ax with extra hard neck and-or FB, would be the ticket to "lowered PU tone". So in that way, I credit the strings with much of the overall tone of this bass.
My best recollection of the effect before I lowered the PU, right after I installed both the neck and strings together, is that my initial reaction on hearing it was "What am I gonna do about this monster ?" The tone had become searingly hot, and it seemed to be twice as loud as it used to be ! The laziest thing to do was lower the PU, and that [for my ears] was the silver bullet :-)
OK, so my result is not focused on a single variable like a simple string swap. But thaz the possible magic in changing almost any component, that the new string, PU, bridge, or whatever, might allow [or demand ?] yet more changes, such that the final outcome can range anywheres from hell to nirvana. `
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#2942 - 07/08/10 10:53 AM
Re: Coated strings shootout
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Don't sound coated, huh? These might need to be in my next string purchase.
P.S. I tried the flats you sent me, Laklander. VERY nice set of strings. I was surprised to even be able to get a moderate slap tone out of them. I just love the smooth FEEL of flats under my left hand. Not that I don't like roundwounds, but the winding can sometimes feel like speedbumps.
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#2959 - 07/08/10 12:46 PM
Re: Coated strings shootout
[Re: ShackMan]
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The TIs are marvelous strings and, even if you pay $70 for a 5-string set, they last two years easily, so they're really not that expensive. They record great, too.
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#3016 - 07/12/10 01:05 PM
Re: Coated strings shootout
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I had the Elixirs several years ago and thought they felt a bit "greasy," plus they didn't seem to keep their brightness very long. The Elixir rep picked my brain about the strings at NAMM and I gave him my opinions, which he said were common complaints. Don't know if they've fixed this, but I'm expecting strings soon and I'll let you know. I liked the DR red coated strings but did find my plucking fingers hung up from time to time on them.
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Dave Molter, MGR Managing Editor/Bass Guitars Editor ----------------------- "Bass is the foundation of the band." -- William Murderface, Dethklok bassist ----------------------- Lakland 55-94; Hofner Icon; Kala U-Bass acoustic & solidbody; Stagg EUB; Genz-Genz Shuttle 6.0; Line 6 Lowdown Studio 110
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#3027 - 07/12/10 10:18 PM
Re: Coated strings shootout
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Yeahh...mine sounded terrible, so I just stayed away from them for a long time, but Laklander has been saying that these new coated strings aren't too bad. Might have to take a second look. My hands are realllllly oily, so not having to change strings as often would be phenomenal.
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"I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it." - Erwin Schrodinger, on Quantum Physics
Keys: Nord Stage 88, Nord Lead 2, Yamaha W7
Upton Bass Custom Upright, BSX Allegro EUB, '80s Peavey T-40, MIM Active Jazz Bass, Godin BG-5, Fender Bassman 100, `68 Fender Bassman 50 head, Gallien-Krueger Fusion 550, SWR (pre-Fender) Goliath III 4x10, Markbass 2x10 Traveler
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#3031 - 07/13/10 12:05 PM
Re: Coated strings shootout
[Re: ShackMan]
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I have aset of Black DRs that I can send you if you want. They're identical to the red ones.
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