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#3548 - 08/18/10 10:52 AM
Re: Replacement Speakers 12inch 400W +/-
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I haven't replaced a speaker in agwes, so I'm no help. I've been told that JBL and EV no longer sell raw speakers. Used to be that if you wanted instant improvement in your cab, you'd slap in a JBL. Eminence seems to be used in many amps these days.
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#3551 - 08/18/10 12:19 PM
Re: Replacement Speakers 12inch 400W +/-
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` I'm noticing that. Just browsing around, with no one's advice, it seems as if all roads lead to Eminence these days ... I'm currently attracted to this one: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=290-510Wattage is about right [MarkBass SD800 head] and the efficiency is waaayy impressive [99db]. If you're into lightweight amps, and I am, then you gotta be into speaker efficiency or you're just robbing Peter to pay Paul. `
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#3552 - 08/18/10 12:23 PM
Re: Replacement Speakers 12inch 400W +/-
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Looks snazzy. I don't know what's in my Genz-Benz NEOX cab, but it puts out a ton of bottom due to cabinet design. http://www.genzbenz.com/?fa=detail&mid=1435&sid=426&cid=96
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#3555 - 08/18/10 01:40 PM
Re: Replacement Speakers 12inch 400W +/-
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Wellll-suh .... if you'll follow your own link, the answer will smack you upside the eyeball, and so I searched around and it appears to not be available to civilians as a replacement speaker. Suxbad cuz it looks like a real contender :-( It's a GNX 12300 Neodymium Loudspeaker ... I'll betcha gotta turn in the dead one to order a replacement, like with an EBMM PU etc etc. `
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#3557 - 08/18/10 02:15 PM
Re: Replacement Speakers 12inch 400W +/-
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..... I've been told that JBL and EV no longer sell raw speakers. Used to be that if you wanted instant improvement in your cab, you'd slap in a JBL. Eminence seems to be used in many amps these days.
What you say is actually documented: http://www.coursehero.com/external.php?db_filename=2958749&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.physics.uiuc.edu%2Fcourses%2Fphys498pom%2FAmps%2FAmp_Pix%2F5G8_Twin_Amp%2FTQRApr05_Article_II_Proof.pdf OK the URL wouldn't go blue and be clickable, but it does work if you cut-and-paste it :-/ `
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#3566 - 08/18/10 05:05 PM
Re: Replacement Speakers 12inch 400W +/-
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Didn't occur to me that GNX might be an actual manufacturer. Figured it was a SB thang. They do sound good but I wonder how much is the speaker & how much is the cab design.
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#3572 - 08/18/10 05:58 PM
Re: Replacement Speakers 12inch 400W +/-
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` I doubt that there's any "GNX Speaker Mfr, Inc." that builds and sells a range of "GNX Speakers".
"GNX12300" is prolly a model number assigned by the subcontractor that builds them for G-B. It may be Eminence or JBL or who knows ... but the G-B website/catalog does not offer it for sale as a raw speaker or replacement part.
There is a similar speaker, an Eminence, made specifically to Aguilar specs, different from any other Eminence speaker offered by dealers that sell Eminence raw speakers .... and the Aguilar version *is* available for on-line purchase, via Aguilar's website, for anyone who wants to buy it. There is no requirement to exchange a burnt out one to buy a new one. ------------------------------------- Similarly, the "MFD" PUs that make a G&L bass a real G&L can be bought directly, no exchange required, but EBMM will only sell a replacement PU in exchange for a returned same-model PU. Just differing philosophies about what it takes to set one's product apart/above from the rest.
When I got my first EBMM, it had a BassLines PU .... which didn't mean much to me except that it sounds good and so I bought it. I knew that 'Bergers come with EMG's, Kramers come with Dimarzios, etc, so for all I knew, EBMM's normally come with BassLines. Presumably, it doesn't too much bother EBMM what PU is in my StingRay, but they *are* bothered ... very much bothered ... that somewheres out there it's likely that some non-EBMM bass is wearing an original EBMM PU, from my Ray. "The sky is falling ! The sky is falling !"
I bleeb the only parts you can buy outright from EBMM are tuners and pickguards, cuz you might bend a tuner, and you are allowed to pimp out your MM with a different PG :-) `
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