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#726 - 10/06/09 09:12 AM
Bass Guitar Cabinets
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stranger
Registered: 10/05/09
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I've only doubled on bass in bands, and the tracks I've played on bass for my recordings have been direct. I've never owned an actual bass amp.
I'd be interested in hearing why some players may chose cabinets with 15 inch speakers, as opposed to the four 10 inch cabinets, or I guess some have 8 ten inch speakers.
What's your preference?
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#758 - 10/08/09 04:04 PM
Re: Bass Guitar Cabinets
[Re: Ricardo]
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Registered: 03/14/09
Posts: 338
Loc: Pittsburgh Area
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My preference, personally, is based on the sound I want. The larger the speaker, and the more speakers you have, the deeper the response is. That can go to the point where you have a really really really deep bass cabinet that can sound somewhat muddy (which is sometimes desirable, if you like dub and reggae).
Personally I think a 4x10 gives the most stable spectrum of clarity and depth of bass response without muddy or twangy. Often, you'll be going though a PA system as well, so you shouldn't have to worry too much about volume when it comes to cabinets.
Right now, I'm using a Markbass 2x10 for smaller gigs (which is one of the best cabinets I've ever used by far!) and an SWR 4x10 for larger and louder shows. I haven't come close to needing both cabinets on the same show yet, thanks to PA systems and decent Front of House engineers.
Larger speakers are also going to have a more loose and slower response, which can also be desirable. 10's sound very tight and punchy.
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#793 - 11/29/09 06:17 PM
Re: Bass Guitar Cabinets
[Re: ShackMan]
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Registered: 11/25/09
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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I've been playing a long time -- 44 years --and I think I've used just about every combination available. I started out with a Fender Bassman with a 2x15 cab, which was just about the ultimate in bass amplification in 1965. I migrated to a rolled 'n' pleated sparkly Naugahyde Kustom 2x15, then to Standel with 2x 5, then to the old Acoustic 360, 1-18" in a folded horn cab. After that, I went back to an Acoustic 450 with 2x15 and wound up using an Ampeg SVT 8x10 before I stopped playing bar gigs. Bass amplification has come a long way in the last 10 years, and I no longer think it's necessary to have a huge cabinet onstage in a club, especially if you're also going through the PA. Stadium sound is a whole different ballgame, of course, and if I were in that situation I'd probably be using some variation of the 8x10 with a Genz-Benz head, which I highly recommend.
Currently I use a GB Shuttle 6.0 with 2, 1x12 cabs with tweeters. The head puts out 600 watts in this configuration and gives me all the sound I need. I find today's 12" cabinets, if they are designed correctly, put out just as much bottom as the old 2x15" or even 18" cabs I've used. I've also had good luck with a 2x10 cabinet for smaller gigs. Ideally, I guess, you could use a combination of 15s and 10s or even 8s to really fill the spectrum, and there are a few manufacturers (Accugroove is one) that provide cabs that have this configuration in one box, with separate compartments.
I agree that the smaller the speaker, the tighter the sound, although 15s can sound tight and punchy depending on the amp, the EQ and the bass. If you can find a dealer locally, Genz-Benz offers very nice cabinets in a variety of configurations -- the NEOX line is killer -- lightweight and lots of bottom from a small box. They also make the Uber 401, which handles 1000 watts. But SWR and MarkBass make nice lines in a variety of configurations as well. The trick is finding a dealer who offers a lot of choices.
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