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#934 - 12/14/09 05:53 PM
Amps you hated to part with
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Registered: 11/25/09
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Anybody have any amps that you sold a while ago and now you regret it? I used to have a Marshall 2205 50-watt JCM800 head that was the real deal-it sounded so sweet-especially with a Marshall Guvnor Plus distortion pedal. I sold it because I needed money for a new apartment. That was about 10 years ago when everybody wanted Mesa/Boogies, so the prices of Marshall JCM800s were pretty reasonable. Now they're considered classics and good luck finding an affordable used one. I also used to have one of the original Mesa/Boogie Subway Rocket 1x10 combos. Twenty watts of Mesa goodness-it could do Santana to Metallica with the flick of a switch. I used to take it to jam sessions and other guys would laugh...until I plugged in and then they were embarrassed that their halfstack was being drowned out by a combo amp. Anybody else have similiar stories of lost loves?
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#941 - 12/16/09 09:18 AM
Re: Amps you hated to part with
[Re: ericseiv]
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Not a guitar amp, but back in the late 1970s, when I quit playing full time, I sold my Acoustic 450/405 combination. It was guitar/bass head with probably 200 watts, a ported 2x15 cabinet. There was a bass/guitar rocker switch that boosted highs in the guitar position, plus a 5-band graphic EQ. Frankly, it sounded terrible for guitar, but I was a Chris Squire fan and always ran my bass amps with more treble than most other players. So I used it in the guitar position. Back then, Acoustic made some of the best solid state bass amps -- it was loud and absolutely clean. I have tapes taken direct from the head using a Gibson Ripper and it sound is among the best I've achieved. Yep -- shoulda kept that amp. I also shoulda kept my 1972 Rickenbacker 4001 and the Steinberger L2 basses I sold. 
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#962 - 12/19/09 05:30 PM
Re: Amps you hated to part with
[Re: Dave Molter]
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Registered: 11/25/09
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What made you sell the Acoustic?
I hate that feeling in my gut when I get the realization that the only way out of a financial crisis is to sell my gear. I keep telling myself I'll buy new stuff and I'll get over it, but when I get back home from selling something the apartment seems so "empty"-kinda like losing a pet lol.
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#966 - 12/20/09 10:08 AM
Re: Amps you hated to part with
[Re: ericseiv]
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Well -- I "retired" from playing full time and really didn't think I'd need an amp. I kept my Steinberger bass. Eventually, I sold that bass after it stayed untouched in my closet for I stayed retired for almost 15 years. Wouldn't you know -- a year after I sold it, I started playing again. I'm happy with the sound of my Genz-Benz now, and I really don't need that 2x15 oomph. Wish I'd kept the 'berger, though (Although I love my Lakland).
Edited by Laklander (12/20/09 10:08 AM)
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#973 - 12/20/09 01:08 PM
Re: Amps you hated to part with
[Re: Dave Molter]
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Registered: 12/11/09
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I had an early 70's 4-input Marshall 50 watt head when I was just out of high school. It had been previously modded for master volume and it sounded huge and would rattle the house. I had a matching Marshall basket front 412 slant cab with it. I pawned it for book money when I was in college at UT in Austin and then my car was in a wreck and I never had the money to get it out of pawn...
As a side note, just before I moved away from Austin, I had a friend who worked at another pawn shop who called me one day (this was in '89) to tell me there was some old beat up Fender amp coming out of pawn to be sold and I could get it for $40. So I did. I didn't know anything about it except that it shocked the bejeezus out of me every time I tried to use it. It got moved from closet to closet every time I moved and ended up in Nashville with me. I traded it one day at a local music store (this was a while back, when I was an idiot) for an Alesis Midiverb so I could do some home recording. <time passes> A few years later, having regretted trading that amp away, I walked into the same music store I'd traded it at (it was a frequent hang) and there was MY old Fender amp, missing knobs replaced, handle replaced, tube retainers added, working perfectly. Of course I had to pay $550 for it, but I still have it to this day. I don't know who bought it and fixed it up or why they got rid of it, but that one came back to me. I used that amp on about 90% of the solos on our Dann Huff produced records in the '00's. It's a '62 Bandmaster blonde amp and it rocks when it's turned up to around 8-9. If y'all ever get a chance to hear our first Christmas cd (or look it up on iTunes) "This Christmas Time," you can hear what it does on the solo on "Please Come Home For Christmas". Merry Christmas!
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#975 - 12/20/09 06:42 PM
Re: Amps you hated to part with
[Re: michael_britt]
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Those old Bandmasters were the guitar equivalent of the Bassman, and they used to be a favorite of Crosby, Stills and Nash for just the reason you described. They had a wall of them, of course. CSN&Y were one of the first groups to carry a huge PA system and run a lot of amps. I saw them on their first tour at Pittsburgh Civic arena in 1969. They literally had Bassman and Bandmaster amps stacked eight feet high behind them. They opened the show with an acoustic set and there was curtain behind them. the curtain rose and there were the amps. No one has seen anything like it. A huge roar went up and Crosby dropped to his knees and bowed down to the amps. That was my first real rock concert, and still one ofg the bset I've seen.
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#981 - 12/20/09 09:04 PM
Re: Amps you hated to part with
[Re: Dave Molter]
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Registered: 11/25/09
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Loc: Pittsburgh
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Britt, that Marshall story breaks my heart but I guess you got your karma back with the Fender. My first "real" halfstack was the original solidstate Randall RG100 heads that were popular back in the '80s. I used it for a couple of years and then graduated to tube amps, but lately I've kinda had an itch to get sentimental and pick up an original Randall again but-thanks to Dimebag Darrell of Pantera-the price of the Randalls is pretty crazy so I wish I never got rid of mine.
Speaking of walls of Fenders, what kind of Fender amps did Ted Nugent use back in the day? He had a complete backline of Fenders. I've never really associated Fender with a hard rock sound, but Sweaty Teddy did a pretty good job with them.
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#988 - 12/20/09 10:20 PM
Re: Amps you hated to part with
[Re: ericseiv]
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I'm not certain, but I'd guess that he used Dual Showman amps & cabs. The head was around 80 to 100 watts, and the cab was 2x15. Fender made them in reverb & non-reverb models. All tube amps, of course, with 4 6L6's, one 12ax7 and one 12at7, I think.
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Dave Molter, MGR Managing Editor/Bass Guitars Editor ----------------------- "Bass is the foundation of the band." -- William Murderface, Dethklok bassist ----------------------- Lakland 55-94; Hofner Icon; Kala U-Bass acoustic & solidbody; Stagg EUB; Genz-Genz Shuttle 6.0; Line 6 Lowdown Studio 110
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#997 - 12/21/09 08:26 AM
Re: Amps you hated to part with
[Re: Dave Molter]
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Registered: 11/25/09
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I'm sure Ted Nugent kept those amps at a reasonable volume lol! I remember watching Conan O'Brien one night and Nugent sat in with the band and all during the show Conan was making comments/jokes about how loud Nugent was over the rest of the band. Another great guitarist to use Fender amps in a hard rock setting was Ronnie Montrose.
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#1094 - 01/04/10 09:21 AM
Re: Amps you hated to part with
[Re: ericseiv]
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stranger
Registered: 01/03/10
Posts: 9
Loc: North of Pittsburgh
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I had this 1974 Marshall Super Bass head that I had tweaked at Gormet PA. They put a master volume it. It was a crunch machine! Then, just for kicks, I built the head into a road case with two 12" Peavy speakers from the early 70's (remember the ones with the silver center to the cones?) Lucky for the crew it was on wheels 'cause it was the biggest damn 212 combo in the universe. Well, I retired from playing in the mid 90's and couldn't see just having it sitting around........ A few years later when I unretired I began kicking myself. Another great feature of that Marshall was that if the furnace died, you could easily heat your whole house with those tubes!
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#1096 - 01/04/10 09:29 AM
Re: Amps you hated to part with
[Re: daveb]
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I've been through the "retired" scene three times. Each time I sold all but one bass. Finally, I sold that one after it sat unused for almost 15 years. A year later, I started playing again. Among the equipment I should have kept: '59 P bass; Acoustic 360 amp; 1972 Rickenbacker 4001; Gibson Ripper; Acoustic 450/406 amp mentioned in previous post; 1982 Steinberger L2 graphite headless bass; Moog Taurus I pedals. And maybe my very first amp/bass package: bought for me by my mom in 1965.
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